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Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6602	Posted - 2014.05.31 12:07:00 - [1] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: So when state (that I am saying) that you cannot find fights in EVE... that is not what I am saying at all. My title of EVE's "No fight" culture is pertaining directly to the initial text of my op. Which clearly states that fights can be had in eve, but primarily, if not almost exclusively, when one side of the other has the deck stacked strongly in their favor. Without which they are afraid to commit, regardless of how big of a game they talk. You're conflating "afraid of fighting" with "refusing to throw ships away if you know you are going to lose". The two are different things. Nevermind that your basic premise is untrue. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6602	Posted - 2014.05.31 12:15:00 - [2] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: You seem to have a reading problem to... Here let me help. Ah, so it's bad manners and insults right off my first comment? No problem, dirtbrain. Quote: Never did I suggest that people should throw away their ships into a fight they are certain to lose, or even likely to lose. A roll of the dice in a more or less evenly matched fight is not a "throwing away of ships" is it? So I do not know why you would even suggest that was the topic of the OP. Yes, actually, it can very well amount to throwing away their ships. EVE is a game about sneaky tricks and skullduggery. If they take a look, and what they see looks like a fair fight? Decent odds are that it's a trap anyway. And there are so, so damned many ways to trap someone in this game, what's more. Get meta. Yeesh. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6602	Posted - 2014.05.31 12:29:00 - [3] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: That's your preferred sneaky meta game... not mine buddy. Some of the best people I ever knew left eve because they found your meta game a boring waste of time. Problem is, I don't like world of tanks and would rather just be playing call of duty. So I can't join them there. Can I have your stuff? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6602	Posted - 2014.05.31 12:37:00 - [4] - Quote Oh, and it's everyone's metagame, whether they acknowledge that or not. Just because you choose to handcuff your use of tactics for whatever RP reason or "moral outrage!" you can conjure up, does not mean that has any effect on anyone else's choice of tactics. Nor that it should. If you want honorable 1v1s at the sun(or whatever nonsense you mean by "fair fight"), then get off your fourth point of contact and go organize something like that for yourself. Quit b****ing and moaning about how the game doesn't do it for you. Sandbox, remember? Yeesh. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6604	Posted - 2014.05.31 15:44:00 - [5] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: I am not going to take something at face value that directly contradicts years of game play and the experiences there in. Even if what they are saying is true, it does not change the fact that a vast majority of eve has become risk adverse pansies that shy away from a fair roll of the dice. You seem determined to misuse the term "risk averse". Not throwing your ships away is not risk aversion. Quote: A forum who's trolls and want to be's endlessly seek a justification for their style of no risk, grief based, easy kill, *guardian infested* PVP style. Ah, that's the root of it. He's just crying about pocket reps guys, nothing to see here. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6604	Posted - 2014.05.31 15:56:00 - [6] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: You also keep harping upon "throwing your ships away" where as I keep saying "Fair roll of the dice". So WTF? I find it amusing that you think such a thing as a fair fight in this game does, or should exist. The closest thing is the Alliance Tournament. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6606	Posted - 2014.05.31 16:07:00 - [7] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Eternum Praetorian wrote: You also keep harping upon "throwing your ships away" where as I keep saying "Fair roll of the dice". So WTF? I find it amusing that you think such a thing as a fair fight in this game does, or should exist. The closest thing is the Alliance Tournament. Here. Allow me to run a little experiment. I would like to 1v1 you in a battleship on tranq or sisi. I don't really care which one. No RR, no help, no ECM drones and no bullshit. We will warp to safe and be fleeted together to make sure no one is running gang links. if a battleship is to expensive for you, we can just use a frigate instead. Hell, I am not even familiar with all the new mods yet, so I am fairly certain you will beat me in a frigate. What do you say? Well, I freely admit I would cheat. I'd have my buddies drop combat probes and warp in on you with sensor damps. Secondly, I think if you want gudfites to such a controlled, OCD degree as you just suggested, that you are probably playing the wrong game. Especially if you're going to be as petty as to ban ECM drones, and I imagine if you had thought of it, pills. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6606	Posted - 2014.05.31 16:13:00 - [8] - Quote Benny Ohu wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Well, I freely admit I would cheat. I'd have my buddies drop combat probes and warp in on you with sensor damps. Secondly, I think if you want gudfites to such a controlled, OCD degree as you just suggested, that you are probably playing the wrong game. Especially if you're going to be as petty as to ban ECM drones, and I imagine if you had thought of it, pills. no items fox only He reminds me of the whiners who would always cry "no potions!" when you would duel in front of the Orgrimmar gates. That's basically what this entire thread is. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6607	Posted - 2014.05.31 16:24:00 - [9] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: I presume you are referring to WOW? Well that explains allot, TBH. Yes. I am telling you that you remind me of nothing more than a WoW player. The kind who wrings his hands about "fairness" and makes tearful entreaties on the forums asking the developers to ban potions in duels because apparently using everything at your disposal is somehow cheating. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6607	Posted - 2014.05.31 16:30:00 - [10] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: Never played it. You'd fit right in. Quote: I tried the secret world for a month but booked after the first pay period ended. I presume you played wow? TSW was fairly alright, their controls were a tad clunky, but the inside jokes that litter the game were pretty fun. Their artwork was amazing. And I've played just about everything, I have press credentials so I get to try out a ton of games. My current "Back off!" game? ESO. The most railroady, overhyped piece of crap I have played in the last 3 years, hands down. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6607	Posted - 2014.05.31 16:42:00 - [11] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: Well that makes you the wow player between us then doesn't it? And wow folks are known for their epic risk aversion to everything under the sun, so that explains why you would not as much accept a frigate dual on the test server. And this is how sick EVE has become. You're that desperate for a straw man to punch? And by the way, memory loss must be painful. You challenged me to a battleship duel. And I said if I would, I would probably cheat. Not any of the nonsense you just spouted. So you're just making stuff up wholesale right now. Quote: So thank you Kaarous Aldurald, you have helped prove my point far better then i could have alone. Even when no isk is on the line, you still cannot bring yourself to smack down someone who deserves it. Apparently I can take a gigantic crap in your front lawn, **** in your cereal bowl before you go to work... and still... you cannot bring yourself to engage in a fight unless you are SURE to win that fight. You will not roll that dice, even when you take zero loss. And that is why I don't play much anymore. You're really reaching now. I'm not sure you could manage to conjure up more hyperbole than you did right there. Especially about something I didn't actually say. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6607	Posted - 2014.05.31 16:48:00 - [12] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: Kaarous Aldurald, spin it as you like. Your answer was no and your an ex-potion dude (something or another) from wow talking on an eve forum. As opposed to the eHonor crusader, in this of all games? Heck, you even tried to tell me I wouldn't be allowed to use ECM drones. I don't know how much more of a combination of whiny and chicken you can get. Like a bagpipe with feathers. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6607	Posted - 2014.05.31 16:49:00 - [13] - Quote Oh, and I didn't say no, or yes. My answer is on the top of page 7, unedited. "I freely admit I would cheat". So knock off the obvious lies, if you please. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6607	Posted - 2014.05.31 17:07:00 - [14] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: At the end of the day, neither of you are going to fight me anywhere... even on a free server... in any ship. Whether I ask nicely or act like a fool, this is the same old story. Again, and again. A few years ago I'd have half the forum challenging me by now, way more then I could take. But all I want is one... just one. Who said I wouldn't fight you? I sure didn't. I'm just not going to kowtow to your eHonor "no ECM drones!" little restrictions. Quote: So I don't get your mind state. I don't get the game that you're playing... and at the end of the day I call bullshit. Your stance on this matter is a farce and it is obvious, even if you go as far as to fool your own self. Welcome to EVE Online... the place WOW players go to die. Lol. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6607	Posted - 2014.05.31 17:09:00 - [15] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: Ahost Gceo wrote: There are no fair fights an Eve and you are a flipping moron if you think that you are a special cupcake and should receive one just because. Yea, well... coward Says the guy who won't fight unless I agree to not use ECM drones? (and a whole pile of other things you don't like) "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6607	Posted - 2014.05.31 17:10:00 - [16] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: So it's yes then? The answer is "depends". I will not handcuff myself to compensate for your inability to handle currently existing game mechanics. And since that appears to be the only way you will fight, it looks like you are the one refusing. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6607	Posted - 2014.05.31 17:13:00 - [17] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: I mean, without ECM you may actually have to commit won't you? That, or it helps lock someone's weapons down while you kill them. Are you going to tell me I can't use neuts, either? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6607	Posted - 2014.05.31 17:16:00 - [18] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: Ok... im done here. Feel free to close the thread. You all proved my point in spades. That you're a hypocrite? I mean, you are trying (and failing by the way, I am sure they are laughing) to mock people for refusing to engage when it's not on their terms. Then you challenge me to a duel, and slap as many restrictions onto it as you can, and you won't fight otherwise. Because fairness, or something. I honestly laughed my ass off. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6647	Posted - 2014.06.02 01:00:00 - [19] - Quote casanover wrote: All i keep seeing is you trolling, im interested in the ops post and the valid views being put forward. There aren't any valid views. The OP is a gigantic hypocrite, as he revealed several pages ago. Quote: Your post sare starting to anger me, i think thats what a troll aims for correct me if im wrong. While I imagine that it's a coincidence, I also imagine it's a happy one. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6648	Posted - 2014.06.02 01:07:00 - [20] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: casanover wrote: All i keep seeing is you trolling! In what way am I trolling? Is it not valid to have an opinion, even if that opinion differs from the OP? My experience is different to his and he asked from my views. Why is it wrong to express them? Specifically in relation to the post you quoted, what's trolling about it? It just states my experience of the ease with which fights can be found in this game. Because he cannot tolerate disagreement. Disagreement makes him mad, and him being mad means that you must be trolling... because reasons. Haven't you been keeping up? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6648	Posted - 2014.06.02 02:20:00 - [21] - Quote casanover wrote: You are indeed entitled to your opinion, My point is that you seem to have an axe to grind with the op. i would like to see some serious debate with regards to the ops original post without yet anoughter thread being locked, Considering the entire thread is trolling, arguably based on the premise of a personal attack? I doubt that will happen. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6662	Posted - 2014.06.02 14:51:00 - [22] - Quote Max Essen wrote: How'd you kill anything in your pod? Inquiring minds want to know ... Quality Scope posting right here. It's fairly obvious, to anyone who isn't in Scope anyway, that he reshipped. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6664	Posted - 2014.06.02 17:42:00 - [23] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: EDIT: Driving someone from the game is against EULA. The only person I had a hand in doing that to was Joe Phoenix, and I dont think many shed a tear that day Lol really? I do hope that's not correct, I freely admit I've done that to a few people. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6750	Posted - 2014.06.03 18:43:00 - [24] - Quote Zurin Arctus wrote: Hey, autistic people and sociopaths have to do something for fun, right? One wonders, then, why you continue to play a game set specifically to cater to tendencies you deride so vehemently. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6761	Posted - 2014.06.04 01:02:00 - [25] - Quote Chopper Rollins wrote: Eternum Praetorian wrote: excuses. Make and publicise a channel called Hisec Duels, this thread has devolved. Just because nobody wants to play with you doesn't mean people don't want to play. "No Fight" culture, nonsense. Interestingly, I think that someone started a duelling association on Reddit a month or two ago, that might be worth looking into also. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6768	Posted - 2014.06.05 13:26:00 - [26] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: Thus far... only one single miner has accepted my hail for a fight fitting the term "fair roll of the dice" everyone else has weasled their way out of it, trolled their way out of it and rationalized why I cannot fly my ass down to their home system in null sec and fight their "awesome sauce x-lowsec pirate main" now residing in nullspace. For my part, and I imagine many others, that's because from your very first post you come across as a mouthy, sanctimonious little eHonor crusader. And that's just not how I play the game. You were worth the time to correct on the forums, but I won't go out of my way to give you the structured, pre arranged fight you beg for, especially when you try to slap a bunch of restrictions on what I can or can't use to stack things in your favor yourself. (I still chuckle about you trying to say "no ECM drones!" by the way) "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6774	Posted - 2014.06.05 18:51:00 - [27] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: I think that this is the second time that you have tried this angle "i don't have the time". Oh, I have the time. You just aren't worth it. Quote: P.S. Wanting to fight while fleeted is hardly "staking things in my favor". And ECM drones allow for a quick escape and this... nullfies your risk. There are tons of other EWAR drones to use. So bullshit.. with a megaphone. Translation: "No potions!" "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6776	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:18:00 - [28] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: Said fight can be 1v1, 2v2 or 10v10 with equal amounts of RR or ECM in each fleet. So then, even the alliance tournament does not fulfill your criteria for a "fair fight"? Truly, you are a fool. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6779	Posted - 2014.06.05 22:56:00 - [29] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: Apparently my idea of what a fair "roll of the dice" is, allows for a more liberal application of both logistics and ECM then the actual alliance rules. Keep on buddy, you are doing a far better job of discrediting yourself then I could do alone. Look, he actually doesn't realize that "no more than one logistics ship" doesn't mean you can't have reps on unbonused hulls. There are tons of reps flying around the AT, just so you know. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6780	Posted - 2014.06.05 23:08:00 - [30] - Quote facepalm I was talking about local reps, numbskull. Ever heard of a tinker tank? Or are you just that determined to be obtuse? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6781	Posted - 2014.06.05 23:15:00 - [31] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: facepalm I was talking about local reps, numbskull. Ever heard of a tinker tank? Or are you just that determined to be obtuse? Well now I'll be honest again, and admit that I have no idea wtf your talking about. I however am discussing the alliances rules on remote repair and ecm on the field during a fight, and comparing it to my interpretation of what defines a fair roll of the dice (which was based upon your post mentioning the alliance tournament). What are you trying to say exactly? That a fair fight would not include a local rep? Clarify. A tinker tank was where a ship had considerably overtanked it's own local reps, and when it's targeted it activates them all to burst tank the enemy ships. Simultaneously the rest of the fleet starts throwing cap transfers at the ship getting hit, so he can keep up the repairs. Between that and the remote reps being provided by the one repair fit T3 cruiser in the group (they use a T3 because it can fit a bigger tank than a T2 Logi cruiser) it helped teams, most notably Pandemic Legion who I believe invented the tactic in the first place, to tank fire from the entire team against one ship, while they delivered their dps against the enemy. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.

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